First Free Agent to change teams

**UTVols2** · July 15th, 2010, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by R13

He'd be insane not to take that, he won't see that much money ever. He isn't worth that much, I don't see Orlando matching.

I agree, he has already signed it now just waiting on Orlando to make a move which I don't see them doing after just adding Chris Duhon and Quentin Richardson.

Bulls also added Korver but on their website they say that they want both where Korver can play a 3 as well to have some outside shooting.

**UTVols2** · July 16th, 2010, 01:34 PM

Looks as if the Magic have matched Chicago's offer.

GM Otis Smith says and I quote ?It came down to me (thinking about) pedigree, DNA and things that most people don?t think about, guys who are winners,? Smith explained on Friday at RDV Sportsplex. ?You want to keep as many of those guys around in your program as you possibly can. It was less about the money for me and more about keeping a guy we?ve had around our organization for the past four years.?

I would link the article but due to filter it won't allow

**R13** · July 16th, 2010, 01:37 PM

I just now seen that on espn.com, wow is all I'll say.

**pvfan** · July 16th, 2010, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by UTVols2

Looks as if the Magic have matched Chicago's offer.

GM Otis Smith says and I quote ?It came down to me (thinking about) pedigree, DNA and things that most people don?t think about, guys who are winners,? Smith explained on Friday at RDV Sportsplex. ?You want to keep as many of those guys around in your program as you possibly can. It was less about the money for me and more about keeping a guy we?ve had around our organization for the past four years.?

I would link the article but due to filter it won't allow

Pardon my ignorance but what has he ever won?

**UTVols2** · July 16th, 2010, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Pardon my ignorance but what has he ever won?

You don't have to win championships to be considered a winner, it's mainly in your preparation and attitude. That is what Otis is talking about. From year one to year four his play has improved drastically.

**pvfan** · July 17th, 2010, 12:17 AM

You don't have to win championships to be considered a winner

Say what? So, if you play for the New Jersey Nets you really could be a winner? What if you play for the Lakers, could you be a loser?

**Rich_Kotite** · July 17th, 2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Say what? So, if you play for the New Jersey Nets you really could be a winner? What if you play for the Lakers, could you be a loser?

Was Ron Artest a winner in Sacramento? Was Gasol a winner in Memphis? How about Fisher in Utah? They were the same players they were then.

**pvfan** · July 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Rich_Kotite

Was Ron Artest a winner in Sacramento? Was Gasol a winner in Memphis? How about Fisher in Utah? They were the same players they were then.

That is a matter of opinion. I for one think Artest has cleaned his act up a ton which has made him a better player. You could also make arguments that Fisher and Gasol have improved due to playing with Kobe.

**UTVols2** · July 17th, 2010, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Say what? So, if you play for the New Jersey Nets you really could be a winner? What if you play for the Lakers, could you be a loser?

Coaches refer to players all the time as being "just a winner". Doesn't mean he is the best player on the team, it is generally just his attitude and work ethic thank earns them this saying. I figured you of all people who enjoy sports as much as you do would understand this. I know you have a huge dislike for JJ Re**** and that is fine but everyone that plays with him in Orlando enjoy him as a teamate and he earns praise from all his coaches, GM, and other players for his work he puts in and his willingness to learn and make himself a better player.

I have never once said he is the best player in the NBA, heck he isn't even the 2nd best SG on his own team. I just like Re****, he is my favorite player, always has been. Don't be mad because he outplayed Blake this year, lol.